#django

wwilliams: i'd put a pdb.set_trace() in your get_random_filename method and see what's happening

shinobi_one, , django.newforms - hello from 2005

it should be working as far as i can tell

Agree, seems like it should be good. Not familiar with the pdb.set_trace, I'll look it up. Thanks.

wwilliams, instance.filename=filename - its just it your local instance in function

no it's not

wwilliams, it will no effect to model

yes it will

lol

thats sort of my point

it's passed by reference, hell_razer

it definitely should from my understanding

so are we stepping through it yet, wwilliams ? :)

SmileyChris, hmmm will try

import pdb; pdb.set_trace()

why might Django (1.5) not respect settings.APPEND_SLASH? I have an entry in urls.py that ends with 'foo/$', and settings.APPEND_SLASH is true. shouldn't 'foo' redirect to 'foo/'?

knite: Only if 'foo' doesn't match any other pattern.

APPEND_SLASH only kicks in if a 404 would occur.

mattmcc: roger that, I'm getting a 404.

maybe foo/ doesn't match any patterns either?

SmileyChris: foo/ works correctly.

foo works if I change the pattern.

so only the foo -> foo/ redirect fails.

What does the whole urlconf look like?

knite: and your middleware

and your mother's maiden name

For example, a view could accept 'foo', but still raise a 404. That won't result in a redirect, because a view did handle the request.

looking for a date?

mattmcc: a-ha, that's a good point which didn't occur to me.

What do you do when a package you are using is not in pip and you want to write install instructions

I package it. :P

mmello: Am back.

We maintain an in-house chishop server for packaging stuff that isn't packaged that we depend on.

Siecje: put it on github yourself or provide a local tar.gz

guys when i put a random url into my django page, i get a server error (instead of a 404). DEBUG is off

it is on github, can I put a link to that in my requirements file?

GrahamDumpleton_: hey.. I was reading some docs and maybe using FastCGI is a solution

GrahamDumpleton_: what do you think?

yes, pip can install directly from a github repo

so can distribute's install_requires

just link to the base repo ?

It can, though I wouldn't deploy to production that way.

ripplebit: You're probably using Django < 1.5 and don't have a 404.html template.

SmileyChris, http://dpaste.com/1273388/

mmello: If your hosting provider controls the Apache and thus port 80, you are more or less stuck with either using their mod_wsgi or FASTCGI if they also support that. Only other option is if they allow people to proxy through to their own application, which requires them to change the Apache and so highly unlikely.

mattmcc: im using 1.5 and i do have 404.html in my template root

ripplebit: Okay, then I'd ask what the exception & traceback is.

ripplebit: if you enable logging that should give the error in a nice format

GrahamDumpleton_: even using fastCGI do you think I'll not be able to execute it?

okay, still happening even when I eliminate actual views. e.g.: https://dpaste.de/WLmUe/

FASTCGI should be find except that FASTCGI can be a PITA.

mmello: http://blog.dscpl.com.au/2011/09/why-is-wsgi-de...

mattmcc: I put a depends in User for channel, but then I get an error about the channel not existing. See my channel/user model here: http://sprunge.us/DWMQ?python

hell_razer: sure it does, something is either not saving it or switching it back afterwards is all

mattmcc: when debug is true, it gives a 404, when it is false, i get a server 50 error. no traceback (at least that i know how to get)

urth: how do i enable logging?

GrahamDumpleton_: hm.. so I should find another provider to host my application

hell_razer: the order of the fields in the model matter, move filename below fileobj and it should work

mmello: There are certainly more Python friendly ones. The one right now I think is most promising is dotcloud, but there is also heroku, OpenShift, WebFaction and Elastic Beenstalk.

GrahamDumpleton_: actually, I generally find Apache/FastCGI (forced to use it on CPanel hosts) is generally quite easy

the package is django-vinaigrette https://github.com/ecometrica/django-vinaigrette pip freeze says I am using 0.1.1 how would I put a link to that specific version

it's just that HostGator do strange stuff with their Python

ripplebit: do you have a 404.html template?

codygman: So in users/migrations/0001_initial.py you have something like depends_on = (('channels', '0001_initial'),) ?

SmileyChris: yeah i do, in my templates/ directory. Im not sure if there's some other configuration i need to do other than setting debug to off. maybe im missing something

mattmcc: users migration: http://sprunge.us/acQJ?python channels migration: http://sprunge.us/bXgi?python

ripplebit: have you set ALLOWED_HOSTS ?

FunkyBob: No i haven't. What does that config variable do?

ripplebit: tends to raise 500s if you haven't set it and turn debug off :P

ripplebit: depending on the server you may find the error in the error log of your web/application server

ripplebit: it lists the host names your app may serve content for

mattmcc: outpout of migrate: http://sprunge.us/ifii?shell

Hey Guys. I'm having a little trouble creating my own UserModel. From what I've read on the tutorials, you can use the default Django UserManager, if the model defines the same fields as the default UserModel. Does this mean, that _all_ fields have to be the same?

FunkyBob: never knew that, thanks. do i just set it to localhost?

urth: im just using the django test server, not sure if it has logs

ripplebit: set it to ['*'] for now

ripplebit: that should output tracebacks in the console

(I think)

FunkyBob: brilliant, thanks for that

ripplebit: it was a recent-ish security change in 1.5

urth: all good now, thanks for the help

FunkyBob: what was the reasoning behind its implementation?

codygman: I seems migrations do not support a custom user model/table yet

ripplebit: best to read the release notes

ripplebit: to prevent host header spoofing

urth: Really, how would you handle that?

not sure, I rarely use south

oh ok

urth: I don't see why they wouldn't... it's just another model

True, but that migration referenced auth_user which is not used

Slawa: if you only want to change a little, or add a few fields, use AbstractUser. It's phenomenally easier (and buried in the docs)

But with AbstractUser, all the regular django Admin stuff continues to work.

codygman: had to read back a bit, did your code use the default User model at one point? you'll need to add the contrib.auth app back to INSTALLED_APPS before starting the migration to get the same starting point

tbaxter: So I can add (required) fields?

Sure. It will be up to you to make sure they get filled in, though. Not tough with a modelform

urth: No problem. It did, but I just created new migrations from the current state. I have contrib.auth in my INSTALLED_APPS

Do I still have to define stuff like "is_superuser" in the model?

Slawa: read the docs, they cover what the abstract models will provide

FunkyBob: Got it, thanks.

Hmm…I'm still getting the "takes exactly 4 arguments (3 given)"-Error. (https://dpaste.de/vy5hS/)

post your code and traceback

Code: https://dpaste.de/vy5hS/ . The error appears on the development server console, when trying to create a superuser. ( TypeError: create_superuser() takes exactly 4 arguments (3 given) )