#dat

emilbayes: hey! o/ I was reading about shapefiles for general knowledge; poking around the node ecosystem to see what's available

I love that I keep on running into your work serendipitously

I might need to do a big import of shapefile data into osm-p2p soon

noffle: Haha thanks! Shapefile is actually a really nice format (i think) It was the first binary format I ever worked with and the spec is really easy to understand

hey noffle, i enjoyed the talk you held at the state of the map! :3

got my letsencrypt nginx script working. it is super neat: https://github.com/mafintosh/add-nginx-ssl#usin...

ogd: o/

forgive me if i missed something, but why not just `certbot --nginx` @mafintosh ?

didn't know you could do that also!

:D

beardicus: does that renew certs and stuff?

haha. ok. nginx support is new-ish.

yes, and autoconfigures.

lol, nice

gotta try that

well... `certbot renew` will autorenew and kick nginx, if you used `certbot --nginx` to install them.

if you're on debian or ubuntu, the certbot package includes a renew cron job, so you don't even have to set that up.

the certbot ssl config gets an 'A' rating if you update your dhparam file manually.

yea my script updates the dhparam (i always do that anyways)

oh, meant to mention, certbot needs a `server` block with `server_name` matching the domain you're fetching certs for.

so if you're just using the default block it'll croak.

yup, my script does that as well

mafintosh: https://github.com/mafintosh/fuse-bindings/issu... :D:D:D

okay, okay

ogd: try installing it now

on linux x64

cblgh: thank you

mafintosh: sorry i forgot, do you have a bootable dat container hash handy?

mafintosh: hmm this didnt work for me, i get this:

ogd: how'd you make the img?

mafintosh: copy pasted from https://github.com/mafintosh/mount-img#creating...

mafintosh: had to mkdir ./mnt

mafintosh: trying the cmds from dat-container readme now

mafintosh: but using ubuntu debootstrap instead of pacstrap

mafintosh: hmm yea that didnt work either

ogd: think the fdisk failed

ogd: could you rerun that part and send the output of fdisk -l my-image.img

mafintosh: o/

mafintosh: then i get this

Hmm okay, let me try

mafintosh: im on ubuntu

what is the `.dat/metadata.ogd` file in SLEEPv2, and why is there no `.dat/metadata.secret_key`?

bnewbold_: ..ogd means its the 'original dat' and we dont store secret key there we put it in ~/.dat

but the `.dat/content.secret_key` doesn't go in ~/.dat?

bnewbold_: yea it should

bnewbold_: ~/.dat/secret_keys

ogd: okay worked on my machine haha, let me check your output again

for me (dat -v = 13.8.1), `content.secret_key` is in the SLEEP .dat, `metadata.secret_key` goes in homedir

bnewbold_: oh sorry

bnewbold_: we use the same key for both feeds

bnewbold_: (right mafintosh?)

hm, I didn't think so, unless the discovery key process is different for each

bnewbold_: i believe content keypair is derived from the metadata keypair

bnewbold_: is the secret_key file for content empty?

nope

huh okay, then that's a bug

can you open an issue?

bnewbold_: just ran into tracy at mozfest, shes doing a cool tv archive machine learning session

mafintosh: btw have you seen http://www.noiseprotocol.org/noise.html and https://www.wireguard.com/

mafintosh: i just wanna test booting an image in case its easier for you to seed one for a bit

ogd: making one for you now

i've been having dns issues since i started scraping rotonde's network of dats

i wonder if they're related somehow

haven't looked at logs yet

cblgh: what kind of dns issues?

i'll browse in firefox on windows and sites won't resolve, hostname won't be recognized

works after a few refreshes

very intermittent which means the cause might something else entirely

cblgh: just had some dns issues as well

cblgh: (the dht worked though) - prob just a cache that is filling up a bunch because of the scraping

... need to move to hyperdht + a dns interface on top ...

mafintosh: any luck with the image

ogd: ya will upload it when I'm home. my internet was being really slow

cblgh: my portal dat://541bbf193535c318e8c4cf566bbe637a76b504227e3456b893fdfe9c1f9e49ea/ does not seem to show up in any of your scraper things?

ogd: you have to mark the partition as bootable was the bug but I made a demo container i'll be seeding :)

alanz: probably because the connection to your dat timed out somehow!

ok, I find dats do not sync very well on my machine.

No idea how to start debugging though

And I suspect it is long ping times and poor uplink bandwith that may be contributing

never mind then

cblgh: chuffed about rotonde!

wow chuffed is a confusing word http://www.dictionary.com/browse/chuffed

but assuming you mean the first def, me too! :3

bit more quiet now after the initial surge of excitement

cblgh: haha yes the former

watching too much british tv

my partner is super into a british bake-off show

and I'm picking up words

cblgh: I really appreciate the tech agnostic qualities you chose for it

haha how does that word basically mean opposite things!?

i know right!

noffle: ya it's been a project since the start of this year that neauoire and i have been experimenting with in various forms, but the agnostic part has been there since the start

it makes me think of p2p rss, but I'm still working on grokking what exactly it is

we all are haha

one incarnation was focused on sharing daily activity logs from our time trackers

basically creating a productivity feed

i kind of think of this one as an extensible twitter, or a baseline social fabric upon which to build other things