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mafintosh: hehehe check out https://www.npmjs.com/package/emojilock

ogd: haha that is great

ogd: whats the easiest way to start using minilock?

generate keys etc

mafintosh: i have only tried minilock-cli on npm

ah cool

mafintosh: it is ok, not as user friendly as i hoped

mafintosh: i think they tell to to use --save but its not documented, but what it does is create a ~/.mlck folder with a json file containing your public key

mafintosh: and you have to create a 100 bits of entropy or longer passphrase

mafintosh: you could also choose to do a private key instead

mafintosh: once you have a ~/.mlck profile you can just type `emojilock` and it prints your emoji id

ogd: nice

setting it up now

mafintosh: send me your emojilock

ogd: ♣️📷💥👶🐘👼📀‼️💡🌉🕜♦️👰🎱🍡🚑🕙😟🚲⛪️↗️🚌🐻🎄🍸📘🏦🎠🛀🛁✉️😟

whoa cool two tubs in a row

one of the tubs has something in it

hahahah

the last 10 or so characters of yours are a story about someone who got a teddy bear for christmas, got drunk and read a book in their aparement and then took a shower only to afterwards find a sad letter in the mail

also their apartment has a carousel in it

they were also in the hospital for a while after eating too much candy and it made them sad

mafintosh: emojilock 1.1.0 has a `emojilock decode <emoji>` api

mafintosh: haha

mafintosh: base64 minilock encrypted message

i should make emojilock able to encrypt into emoji too

ogd: yes!!

mafintosh: did it work?

gave me corrupted file

ogd it looks like hex and not base64?

mafintosh: oops sorry

mafintosh: the original file is like half ascii half binary

mafintosh: i think minilock-cli has a weird format it saves

mafintosh: shasum is bfab5b7daebbffb1c2c58e0f9c4fd4d3e15453fd

bWluaUxvY2t6AgAAeyJ2ZXJzaW9uIjoxLCJlcGhlbWVyYWwiOiIyc2FVeHJsN2ZLTGlLTzNSTHNRUDdKSXY5Vk5rc09HSVpRU0h2b0FrSkRvPSIsImRlY3J5cHRJbmZvIjp7IjE0a2tiUEx6WXlKYkVlOWE1NzVqZHpsWVp5b2ZxUWdOIjoiMGtwNm5sckhhUEFzaUp5UUlxN3MydHJlSDFHVFpWeGhON0dwOUNoc01QWEtRREhwaHNkM0tXakQ2UE1yak5xRHFsTVhHbWYxMDd2M3hhdUxwNGVSZExZVDRIZ0RVbUQxMDhXT0hKUW1hclFCaktNQUVmekdnTkxrUkwyMmp6alFCVWNGYk1m

dFduSjZFUTZ2ZVJMakducVo2TTRFUkhmT1c1dm5kSUt6bm42S3lyc004cWNqM090dXU3cmJkeVozam1wYjFjdlN4dDdRc0RycSt3SWtvUWQ3cnpHazU3Y3phUGhFdy84dWtZZngxNUNKQlFKKy9KQWF6cXE2REwyK2FDQXJZR0VUaFZkYjR6U0x0UzlSeFRPTW0xbVMzSlI1ZjZpNFZyZWZpVXVSNVhMUzFvWThLaW94WDRLZkE3L0pvWldiK1pKS2d0Tk82aGtBWDJTOUpmd3pndHBNRExkQ245RDYvckFsbW9XazhFYkkrK1haRkpaOHlhaUFDWWdUeWd3VzVQUE5ycGFRbkpaaEtLc3hk

Zlk2UUswWmczQUF3T2RlNTV4dHpaZmNQaWYwM2xvL21EdVNQQzhxblZXU1lRRVgwZGhSVWZsV3ZFSStZalNiMXJtZDBxWFFwblNJbnp1UWZkWFMwdmUrd05wZjZoZ0dmZjJQa291YyJ9fQABAABd2ddVvdfOgNulPjNpSEEmkKDbyuEw4j3QrfJWACfF335y10OSX4CwXzTkgUu5gto7lKkFSm80iugaCGGdV/2NgWrgE84uYbMqjtOU2ZHH2R4CfaUslPqn2F8ewaB2b2AqI7SEhVaBL1WJE4+BTq1BbosRwP0tU5hzQh4iXIAfXvpZtLUScLUcv3XUZIw+aLyVx0Mry5x4B6Z3M9y5I7P5

5ktScdZG6u/NNovJ63IrLrOh64/OPfNns2I/x6sYlpt3zWIfsm+7nfRYygrLTh9vWRyNDXHhorszmLn1Zx/Yi82qdl2J+aun2Duy/mFlrxdr0yy9YJRSGClfoniNufSSilCWtfpY51Az0daw+XsQrg4AAABR55MyZwpSX0nDFeX79MDD4nuOQ130uvA6yM8M0H0AAAAA4x0yiyiCS0SxnMQ6Qo8Wiw==

dang

ogd: https://gist.github.com/mafintosh/6c8b0888723a8...

my reply (base64)

mafintosh: WORKED!

mafintosh: also just published emojilock 2.0.0 which upgrades base-emoji 2.0.0 which made a breaking change to the emoji mapping to improve it

ogd: so i should update my minilock emoji id?

mafintosh: yea sorry

np

cutting edge emoji

hehe

my new one is here https://github.com/maxogden/emojilock#emojilock

ogd: mine is: ♣️📷💥👶🐘👼📀‼️💡🌉🕜♦️👰🎱🍡🚑🕙😟🚲⛪️↗️🚌🐻🎄🍸📘🏦🎠🛀🛁✉️😟

mafintosh: looks like the old one

hmm yea

ah whoops

kinda cool i can remember your hash like that

i feel like if it was a hex string i wouldnt have remembered

ogd: 🍐🎲💃🐗🍷🍎👅👦🌍🍩🐁🐍🐬🎱✂️😠📝➡️🍒💋🚴👣🌵🔑🐧🎊🍞🍏💡🚌⚡️➡️

nice

the snake eating the mouse eating the donut

haha

we should use this as the default transport for dat

so if anyone ever packet sniffs it they would be like WTF

ogds: yours has a kid who lost his balloon because of gambling

ahaha

pfraze: look what youve done

ogd: haha love it

yeah we clearly need tcpmoji

the mojinet

world wide moji

pfraze: emoji duplex stream!

so it works over all the transprots

emojipipe

now im just trying to memorize my minilock passphrase

mafintosh: maybe all emojilocks should start with the lock emoji

🔒

cool i put my emojilock id at the top of my blog :) http://maxogden.com/

with rel='emojilock' so its parseable

[dat] ArtskydJ opened pull request #363: Fixed typo (master...patch-1) http://git.io/vYxHo

ogd: nice - i'll host mine online as well

i should go to bed ...

substack: what do you think of this interface for signing in hyperlog, https://gist.github.com/mafintosh/3829f094e954b... ?

this keeps me from including sodium as a dep (its native so would like to avoid that for now)

and let you use any crypto lib you want

what about an async version?

this way these operations can be fed into a keyring

I mean, only the async version, not an async version in addition to a sync version

I like keeping the implementation not tied down to a particular implementation (but encouraging people to use sodium in the docs is good)

substack: good point. i'll update it

*keeping the crypto not tied down

substack: and then nodes will replicate with a .publicKey and .signature property

sounds good

for other kinds of non-ecc crypto like rsa the publicKey field could be the hash of the public key

and if verify() is async, that can be looked up from a local store!

substack: yea. its just gonna be whatever you pass in the constructor. super simple

signed feeds will be really useful for sensor data

substack: different question. do you represent hashes as buffers or hex strings usually?

some people working on that in oakland are planning to use dat for some sensor applications

Oh sweet!

mafintosh: depends on the context

if there's already binary data, I go for buffers, but if there isn't, I go for hex strings

substack: fx in something like hyperlog would you represent the node key as a buffer? The value is already binary

In dat we could add a user dataset where you could add user metadata for a publickey as well

i would probably keep it as a buffer then

but I don't think it matters too much, it's easy to .toString('hex')

yea (just bikeshedding)

substack: see https://gist.github.com/mafintosh/3829f094e954b... now

is the signature cb(err) or cb(err, valid)?

substack: updated

looks good!

great - i like it as well