I love how in the 'Before You Download' section it says that it can't guarantee security in any way due to possible bugs :P
LO1ZB
prepare yourself to being added o.o
SamJBarney
I suppose I would have to download and build it myself
LO1ZB
did it work?
does*
SphinxC0re
one moment
I'm currently downloading a GUI client
LO1ZB
ok
I downloaded µTox
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SamJBarney
The bootstrap script for osx is broken. Not impressed. :/
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SphinxC0re
Sorr
y
SamJBarney
Meh. It's fine.
SphinxC0re
had bad bad graphic laggs and my pc went totally unresponsive
SamJBarney
:P
SphinxC0re
I'm using arch, so ... happens from time to time
SamJBarney
Sooooooo bored.......
SphinxC0re
Me too
SamJBarney
I'm so bored I'm looking for jobs for after I graduate college.
LO1ZB
jobs like in 'being paid for doing things'?
SamJBarney
Yeah. Mostly programming jobs.
But most of the ones I find are either requiring I have 8 years of experience or a master's degree
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Or web development, which I can do but don't want to do.
Why? Why must all of the entry level jobs require me to have experience with it already?
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rincewind
uahh skype
SphinxC0re
I hate it
SamJBarney
?
SphinxC0re
skype
SamJBarney
Buggy?
SphinxC0re
closed
+ microsoft
SamJBarney
Ah.
I have no problem with closed source. But it is always nice to see what is going on behind the scene.
rincewind
There are a lot of problems with closed source
SamJBarney
I'm sure there are. I'm just saying I have no problem if someone wants to do a closed source project.
Doesn't bother me where the program comes from, just as long as it does what it is supposed to do.
rincewind
that's the joke, isn't it? You can't be sure of that
SamJBarney
If it does what it is listed to do, then it does what it is supposed to do. If it does extra things, then that doesn't affect what it already does correctly.
I'm not saying that "hidden features" are a good thing, but I have no problem with people spying on me.
rincewind
and why is that?
SamJBarney
They're just going to have the same amount of information on me that they could get from the internet.
I don't do financial things on the computer.
I don't torrent illegal things.
etc.
Would I have problems with someone sticking cameras in my house? Yes.
rincewind
Are you ok with them knowing which kind of porn you like? what you plan for life, what you are talking about with other people
are those other people ok with that?
SamJBarney
I don't watch porn. I don't really care what people know about my plans for life, or what I am talking with with other people.
Whether or not they are okay with it is their problem.
not mine
rincewind
do you have reasonably modern laptop? did put something over the camer? do you have a smartphone?
SamJBarney
s/camer/camera/ ?
rincewind
yes
SamJBarney
Desktop. No smartphone, but will be going to get one soonish. What do you mean by 'did put something over the camera'?
SphinxC0re
cover it
rincewind
put a sticker on it
SamJBarney
No, but if someone looks through it, all they will see is a room full of boxes, or a relatively handsome man
rincewind
Are you ok with criminals or goverments putting files ON your computer?
to be pretty much completely controlled?
SamJBarney
I would have problems with that.
I have no problems being watched. I have many problems with being controlled.
rincewind
being able to watch someone is a big step to being able to control them
SamJBarney
Controlling someone requires that you have something to force them to do your bidding, which is dependent upon how you live and what information is publicly available, compared to privately available, and how dangerous that information is.
Or embarassing
It also depends on the will of the person to be controlled
A person who does illegal activities has more to worry about than a person who doesn't
A person who has low self-esteem has more to worry about than someone who is self confident
rincewind
that's true, but it makes you just less of a target, not no target at all
SamJBarney
How would they controll me if they had no leverage?
rincewind
They could produce some
SamJBarney
From?
A room full of boxes
?
A well-dressed image of a man?
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Video of me playing minecraft?
Or programming?
rincewind
uploading child porn on your computer and telling the FBI
SamJBarney
If someone is so interested in controlling me that they need to resort to that, they must be desperate
rincewind
or greedy or just fucked up for some other reason
enough people of that kind around
SamJBarney
True.
rincewind
Also, I don't know, what you are doing, day in, day out, but these things may be legal at the moment, but that can change
SamJBarney
Yeah, but I keep up on politics and do my best to be involved. I can keep up with what is legal or not.
Honestly, I am less worried about people trying to control me for some sort of gain, than governmental corruption
rincewind
corrupt goverment has also something to gain with controlling the people
SamJBarney
Yeah, that's why I am more worried about it
Just so you know, I am not trying to be contradicting or contraversial, or trying to upset you. I am just explaining my position.
rincewind
I am doing the same thing. I hope, I am not to missionary about that
SamJBarney
lol. Missionary :P
No. I've just had similar discussions with my father-in-law
rincewind
kk
SamJBarney
He's a conspiracy theorist
about everything
rincewind
I just think, that one should protect itself as best as possible nowadays
SamJBarney
I agree.
SphinxC0re
Use condoms and such
SamJBarney
I personally think it's easier to stay "protected" that way by being abstinent, but I know a lot of people don't think that way.
SphinxC0re
Oh man :D
SamJBarney
I know, not the most popular opinion
:P
Hey SphinxC0re, what do you think of making Biomes into a class?
SphinxC0re
That is indeed a really nice idea
SamJBarney
Why do you think so?
Just trying to get a general idea of what people expect out of Cuberite
SphinxC0re
Just encapsuling the compositing modules into classes
SamJBarney
Compositing modules?
I do believe that there is a lot of code and data that needs to be centralized that is currently scattered across the codebase.
SphinxC0re
Okay then let's start by 0
what is the most basic definition of biome
SamJBarney
A biome is a temperature and a humidity, along with a list of plants, blocks and animals that can exist within that biome.
s/exist/spawn/
Generation is separate from biome, in my opinion
What do you think?
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SphinxC0re
I agree
SamJBarney
It's just one of those major rewrites that needs to happen that no one will touch :/ I'll probably end up doing it, most likely.
It's so major because not only would the biome code have to be rewritten, but so would the mob related code and generation.
And I know I've said I'm all for Forge compatibility, and I am working towards it, but because of the structure of Cuberite, and the fact that it is written in a statically compiled language, there will be some that we will not be able to support at all. Specifically any that require rewriting of core methods within the Forge source code.