#cuberite

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      • SphinxC0re
        You are using osx?
      • SamJBarney
        Yeah
      • SphinxC0re
        The link thing is bad
      • SamJBarney
        I love how in the 'Before You Download' section it says that it can't guarantee security in any way due to possible bugs :P
      • LO1ZB
        prepare yourself to being added o.o
      • SamJBarney
        I suppose I would have to download and build it myself
      • LO1ZB
        did it work?
      • does*
      • SphinxC0re
        one moment
      • I'm currently downloading a GUI client
      • LO1ZB
        ok
      • I downloaded µTox
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      • SamJBarney
        The bootstrap script for osx is broken. Not impressed. :/
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      • SphinxC0re
        Sorr
      • y
      • SamJBarney
        Meh. It's fine.
      • SphinxC0re
        had bad bad graphic laggs and my pc went totally unresponsive
      • SamJBarney
        :P
      • SphinxC0re
        I'm using arch, so ... happens from time to time
      • SamJBarney
        Sooooooo bored.......
      • SphinxC0re
        Me too
      • SamJBarney
        I'm so bored I'm looking for jobs for after I graduate college.
      • LO1ZB
        jobs like in 'being paid for doing things'?
      • SamJBarney
        Yeah. Mostly programming jobs.
      • But most of the ones I find are either requiring I have 8 years of experience or a master's degree
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      • Or web development, which I can do but don't want to do.
      • Why? Why must all of the entry level jobs require me to have experience with it already?
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      • rincewind
        uahh skype
      • SphinxC0re
        I hate it
      • SamJBarney
        ?
      • SphinxC0re
        skype
      • SamJBarney
        Buggy?
      • SphinxC0re
        closed
      • + microsoft
      • SamJBarney
        Ah.
      • I have no problem with closed source. But it is always nice to see what is going on behind the scene.
      • rincewind
        There are a lot of problems with closed source
      • SamJBarney
        I'm sure there are. I'm just saying I have no problem if someone wants to do a closed source project.
      • Doesn't bother me where the program comes from, just as long as it does what it is supposed to do.
      • rincewind
        that's the joke, isn't it? You can't be sure of that
      • SamJBarney
        If it does what it is listed to do, then it does what it is supposed to do. If it does extra things, then that doesn't affect what it already does correctly.
      • I'm not saying that "hidden features" are a good thing, but I have no problem with people spying on me.
      • rincewind
        and why is that?
      • SamJBarney
        They're just going to have the same amount of information on me that they could get from the internet.
      • I don't do financial things on the computer.
      • I don't torrent illegal things.
      • etc.
      • Would I have problems with someone sticking cameras in my house? Yes.
      • rincewind
        Are you ok with them knowing which kind of porn you like? what you plan for life, what you are talking about with other people
      • are those other people ok with that?
      • SamJBarney
        I don't watch porn. I don't really care what people know about my plans for life, or what I am talking with with other people.
      • Whether or not they are okay with it is their problem.
      • not mine
      • rincewind
        do you have reasonably modern laptop? did put something over the camer? do you have a smartphone?
      • SamJBarney
        s/camer/camera/ ?
      • rincewind
        yes
      • SamJBarney
        Desktop. No smartphone, but will be going to get one soonish. What do you mean by 'did put something over the camera'?
      • SphinxC0re
        cover it
      • rincewind
        put a sticker on it
      • SamJBarney
        No, but if someone looks through it, all they will see is a room full of boxes, or a relatively handsome man
      • rincewind
        Are you ok with criminals or goverments putting files ON your computer?
      • to be pretty much completely controlled?
      • SamJBarney
        I would have problems with that.
      • I have no problems being watched. I have many problems with being controlled.
      • rincewind
        being able to watch someone is a big step to being able to control them
      • SamJBarney
        Controlling someone requires that you have something to force them to do your bidding, which is dependent upon how you live and what information is publicly available, compared to privately available, and how dangerous that information is.
      • Or embarassing
      • It also depends on the will of the person to be controlled
      • A person who does illegal activities has more to worry about than a person who doesn't
      • A person who has low self-esteem has more to worry about than someone who is self confident
      • rincewind
        that's true, but it makes you just less of a target, not no target at all
      • SamJBarney
        How would they controll me if they had no leverage?
      • rincewind
        They could produce some
      • SamJBarney
        From?
      • A room full of boxes
      • ?
      • A well-dressed image of a man?
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      • Video of me playing minecraft?
      • Or programming?
      • rincewind
        uploading child porn on your computer and telling the FBI
      • SamJBarney
        If someone is so interested in controlling me that they need to resort to that, they must be desperate
      • rincewind
        or greedy or just fucked up for some other reason
      • enough people of that kind around
      • SamJBarney
        True.
      • rincewind
        Also, I don't know, what you are doing, day in, day out, but these things may be legal at the moment, but that can change
      • SamJBarney
        Yeah, but I keep up on politics and do my best to be involved. I can keep up with what is legal or not.
      • Honestly, I am less worried about people trying to control me for some sort of gain, than governmental corruption
      • rincewind
        corrupt goverment has also something to gain with controlling the people
      • SamJBarney
        Yeah, that's why I am more worried about it
      • Just so you know, I am not trying to be contradicting or contraversial, or trying to upset you. I am just explaining my position.
      • rincewind
        I am doing the same thing. I hope, I am not to missionary about that
      • SamJBarney
        lol. Missionary :P
      • No. I've just had similar discussions with my father-in-law
      • rincewind
        kk
      • SamJBarney
        He's a conspiracy theorist
      • about everything
      • rincewind
        I just think, that one should protect itself as best as possible nowadays
      • SamJBarney
        I agree.
      • SphinxC0re
        Use condoms and such
      • SamJBarney
        I personally think it's easier to stay "protected" that way by being abstinent, but I know a lot of people don't think that way.
      • SphinxC0re
        Oh man :D
      • SamJBarney
        I know, not the most popular opinion
      • :P
      • Hey SphinxC0re, what do you think of making Biomes into a class?
      • SphinxC0re
        That is indeed a really nice idea
      • SamJBarney
        Why do you think so?
      • Just trying to get a general idea of what people expect out of Cuberite
      • SphinxC0re
        Just encapsuling the compositing modules into classes
      • SamJBarney
        Compositing modules?
      • I do believe that there is a lot of code and data that needs to be centralized that is currently scattered across the codebase.
      • SphinxC0re
        Okay then let's start by 0
      • what is the most basic definition of biome
      • SamJBarney
        A biome is a temperature and a humidity, along with a list of plants, blocks and animals that can exist within that biome.
      • s/exist/spawn/
      • Generation is separate from biome, in my opinion
      • What do you think?
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      • SphinxC0re
        I agree
      • SamJBarney
        It's just one of those major rewrites that needs to happen that no one will touch :/ I'll probably end up doing it, most likely.
      • It's so major because not only would the biome code have to be rewritten, but so would the mob related code and generation.
      • And I know I've said I'm all for Forge compatibility, and I am working towards it, but because of the structure of Cuberite, and the fact that it is written in a statically compiled language, there will be some that we will not be able to support at all. Specifically any that require rewriting of core methods within the Forge source code.
      • Sorry. I am getting ranty. I need to eat.
      • SphinxC0re
        Yep
      • :D
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