#coins

Damn... I wouldn't say that's absolutely conclusive but it's pretty concrete.

Any evidence that AMD has backdoors?

Yep, pretty concrete is conservative.

Charles__: Yes, AMD said it would investigate or something lame like that.

They sounded nervous, haha.

AMD's backdoors haven't been independently published yet, but they're there.

There are a few weak open core CPUs, I guess I'll use them if I need to do any serious encryption. I suppose I'd have to write my own RSA software too which fortunately isn't too hard

There's even an open source laptop

Like every bit of the hardware and software is open source

From a business point of view, AMD should have gone out of business a long time ago, but the fact they're still thoroughly in the game is incredibly suspicious. If it's not NSA money, then they're dealing drugs, haha :)

Well they do have their graphics card division.

It's been quite successful recently

The best alternative to AMD and Intel is probably ARM. Since they don't manufacture, only license designs, anyone who has access to the designs can more easily find any backdoors.

But companies like Qualcomm could easily add backdoors

Yes, AMD's graphics cards are still inferior to Intel's. AMD is competing on price, and the only way they're even able to do that much is because their "profit" comes from the NSA, so it's OK for them to lose money as long as they look legitimate upon cursory examination.

Yes, they could. Maybe they have.

Do you mean inferior to NVIDIA?

Yes

At least, last I checked they were.

That has been about 2 years since I've looked.

Not true, I build computers for a living, and while Nvidia usually wins on top end cards, it doesn't matter because most people buy mid end cards where AMD offers better value.

That's probably been the case for a little under two years.

Yeah, if it's less than 2 years, I'm not aware of it.

I'm not saying the NSA isn't promping them up, just saying they might not have had to.

I'll take your word for it.

I found a blank penny in circulation too, I wonder if it's worth anything.

Well, AMD still has to look legitimate, or the NSA will give their funding to another competitor to take their place.

Charles__: Yes, iti is.

That's true.

It's unstruck, and it's a valuable error.

Unstruck, no rim.

So it didn't even get rimmed

Yep. Just a planchet.

Google says about $50 with no rim

Only like $5 with a rim

Rims are created during the striking process, but the planchets get rolled before that to raise the planchet "rim" up a little, and remove some of the roughness from punching. That reduces the required striking pressure for a full strike, and increases the life of the dies.

Speaking of the rim I found a penny with a super steep rim on both sides

I'm skeptical that it actually came out of the mint like that since I can't find mention of anything like it anywhere

I've seen those too. Sometimes they're valuable, but usually not.

It's dime sized because the rim is so deep

Oh, that has been hammered.

Like manually by some random guy?

Basically somebody just rotated on an anvil while gently tapping it with a hammer.

Yes, it raises the rim impressively pretty quickly.

I suspected something like that, oh well it's still cool

Why do people do that?

Bored.

I've done it :)

I saw one of those pennies, and I had to try it myself, and it worked just like they said it would.

If you did it to a 1987 d lincoln penny screw you

haha, maybe that one's mine :)

Do you know anything about so called grease errors?

What's that?

You mean a filled-die?

The alleged culprit is always grease, but it could be anything.

It's probably more likely to be something like flecks of copper plating stuck to the die. Copper is actually kind of sticky, and will easily adhere to the dies if it comes loose.

I think filled die

The front of the penny looks like a blob

The date is completely missing, most of the words are unreadable

The back is normal

That could be filled-die, or it could be weak strike.

It's also slightly misshapen

If the back is normal, then it's a filled die, not a weak strike.

Well the back is a teeny bit smudgy looking around the edges

Are filled dies worth anything?

It could be broadstruck or a brockage.

Yes, if they're impressive, they're worth more.

Not a lot more, but it depends on how interesting and rare it is.

Mine looks like an autistic retard version of a lincoln penny so I'm hopeful

It's always worth "more" to the "right" buyer.

How do you know so much about error coins?

I know a lot about a lot of things.

Coins are kind of just a side thing.

I'm probably one of the world's top experts, or becoming so - it depends on how you want to define it.

Well thanks for all the info. For some reason information on error coins is a PITA to find.

Socrates would have your ass for that statement.

Yeah, I know. Memorize it when you find it.

Socrates, Plato? Morons.

:)

Why's that?

It's a movie quote.

Famous last words :)

Everyone tells me I need to see that movie.

I'm shocked you haven't.

But I was referring to Socrates' Apology, "the more you know the more you know that you don't know"

Yeah, that's true.

One of my favorites is: A wise man can learn from a fool, but a fool can't learn from a wise man.

One I came up with myself is: Give a man a fish, he eats for a day. Teach a man to fish, and he sinks the boat.

I'm going to put that on my forum profile.

I just added that feature.

The one you came up with?

Yes.

You moderate /r/coins?

No, why did you ask that?

I thought you meant reddit flair or something when you said forum profile.

Which forum?

Holy shit this isn't the reddit coin IRC.

It isn't?

I thought it was.

Now I have no idea, I just found it on some random website. But it says forum.coincompendium.com on the IRC topic.

Can't remember why I thought it was reddit.

Hmm, we have some traction on Reddit.

You might have found us via there somehow.

We're the only coin chat group though.

And by far the largest.

It's a mystery then, I suppose.

Do you collect coins for fun?

Yes, I do enjoy it, but I don't enjoy if I'm not making money on it.

That's why I sold all my USA coins.

I'm convinced silver is going to at least triple in value within my lifetime

Inflation adjusted of course

I agree.

Charles__, you read socrates' apology?

Did you have any USA junk silver?

I made lots of money on silver. I sold it in 2008.

I have read it goldfinger, I didn't study it.

Charles__: That used to be my favorite kind to invest in.

badon, very recently it was below $18 an ounce, why didn't you pile into it?

whats the difference, do you mean as in a more leisurely approach?

goldfinger, I did it as part of a seminar, but we didn't go in depth into it.

So it was formal but not deep.

Charles__: Because I'm making way more money on Chinese coins right now.

Taking advantage of them suppressing their currency somehow?

No, taking advantage of the end of communist suppression of precious metals and coin collecting.

Was it interesting Charles__ ?

The last communist retrictions were removed in 2003, so the Chinese coin market is doing 300 years of maturation in a few short decades. I've never made so much money in my life, it's insane.

goldfinger, very, before the seminar I never gave philosophy a second thought and now I'm hungry for it

badon, nice, I wish you luck on it.

That's funny, I call the quote fields on the forum "Philosophy of the moment".

I think 3 of them should be enough.

3 quotes?

Yes, convenient fields encouraging people to add some sayings to their profile.

It's a good idea I had just today.

You can see my two quotes there.

At the bottom, just above my signature.

That's great, you get gems of knowledge while reading the forums

I wrote both of them myself, they're not from anywhere else.

If you have smart enough forum members that is

Yes, I really enjoy sharing the knowledge.

It makes me better at it.

I like the first quote better

Me too.

I want that inscribed on my gravestone.

If families are a problem for the system, then we must reject the system, not the families.

I approve.

Completely off topic, do you play any musical instruments?

Well it isn't completely off topic...