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      • badon
        N0ZYC: Oh cool, that's the God of Wealth Guan Yu and Cai BoXing.
      • N0ZYC
        godS ?
      • does seem to be to do with wealth, there's coins and food (more food than coins, go figure)
      • weighs about as much as a can of pop
      • badon
        Yes, it's part of the Nanjing Mint's God of Wealth series, started in 2012.
      • N0ZYC
        oh, same god, different timeframes
      • badon
        What?
      • There are 2 different gods on the coins.
      • N0ZYC
        you said god, singular, earlier
      • badon
        Guan Yu and Cai Bo Xing.
      • N0ZYC
        ok singular god two names :P
      • they really felt the need for two huh
      • badon
        They are called the God of Wealth. Each one is a God of Wealth.
      • N0ZYC
        never seen a society do that
      • huh
      • badon
        They have a lot more than that.
      • Zhao Gongming is the God of War and Wealth.
      • Many of them are realy people, or at least mythical versions of supposedly real people that have been deified.
      • N0ZYC
        confusing
      • badon
        They're closely tied to China's history, so it makes it easier to learn about China and Chinese culture when you study the gods.
      • They are also often translated as "spirits" or something similar.
      • They're akin to Santa Claus and the Elves. They're an important part of China's culture, but they aren't taken very seriously.
      • Other than the fact they're modeled on real people.
      • N0ZYC
        I thought communism was very anti-religion
      • this seems religious
      • badon
        China isn't communist anymore.
      • The last vestiges of communism were eliminated in 2003.
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      • They were only communist during Mao's reign. After he died, they did everything they could to get rid of communism.
      • N0ZYC
        what are they considered now?
      • badon
        I'm not sure.
      • N0ZYC
        north korea is an interesting one
      • the "democratic republic of north korea" is neither democratic nor a republic
      • badon
        People like to give names to everything, but most of the time they're the exact same thing.
      • N0ZYC
        it's a hereditery stalinist dictatorship iirc
      • badon
        Monarchy.
      • It's indistinguishable.
      • Well, it's actually founded as a democracy.
      • All revolutions are by nature, democratic and criminal.
      • Democracy is indistinguishable from gangs.
      • N0ZYC
        interesting viewpoint
      • badon
        The Americans thought they pioneered modern democracy, but it was actually pirates in the region that had the first democracies. Democracy is the preferred form of government of murderers and thieves. That's why all democracies begin and end violently.
      • Well, I should say the begin, live, and die, violently.
      • N0ZYC
        so what's your preference?
      • badon
        Hierarchy. Almost nobody does it, but the few places it pops up, there is tremendous stability and peace.
      • It's like a republic, but goes down to smaller scales, and larger scales.
      • The fundamental unit of government is then the family.
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      • N0ZYC
        I read about that recently... you'd think that if they were seeing gravitational effects they could simply backtrack to have a VERY good idea of where this planet was at
      • since gravity is an order-squared function, not linear, you should be able to work out its mass and position
      • (otherwise it could be a large mass far away, or a smaller mass closer up)
      • >>We discovered Neptune in a similar fashion. We noticed some gravitational anomalies and concluded there must be something there. After some calculations, we took a look at that area, and there was Neptune within a few percent of those calculations.
      • badon
        N0ZYC: That's why Mike Brown predicts it will be found within 16 months. They're narrowing down where they have to look to find it, if it is there.
      • N0ZYC
        I think the biggest trick is to spot something that's not emitting any detectable light or heat
      • >>The issue there though is frankly it would be all but impossible to find a planet as far out as they're suggesting with today's technology- there isn't much light out there to reflect, and the planet isn't going to be heated enough to be seen in the infrared. Never say never, but definitely a concern.
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      • mountaingoat
        badon, N0ZYC, do you guys track dollar cost average for your silver/gold?
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      • badon
        mountaingoat: No.
      • mountaingoat: Actually, I used to do that for silver, but I was flipping it modestly quickly, and only keeping the best stuff like high grade dimes and 10 oz bars.
      • So, I quit doing it.
      • mountaingoat
        oh ok
      • i just worked it up in my spreadsheet out of curiosity
      • wondering if i should use it as a metric to buy or not, but probably won't
      • badon
        Yeah, I didn't think it was very useful for me personally.
      • For some people it might be.
      • mountaingoat
        sure. i'll probably just leave it in there
      • btw, silly question but
      • how does the taxes work out when you flip coins?
      • i've never actually sold the stuff back for dollars myself
      • badon
        Most of it goes under the radar, but I assume it's taxed like any other gain.
      • mountaingoat
        that's what i figured
      • badon
        For myself, I take my losses immediately, and ride my gains forever.
      • mountaingoat
        the tax seems pretty high, it's like 28%
      • maybe silver isnt always collectibles though?
      • i guess it would just be capital gains or something
      • nevermind it looks like it's always a collectible
      • badon
        I'm sure it depends on your jurisdiction.
      • mountaingoat
        OK yeah, i'm talking about US
      • badon
        It varies by state, county, and city too.
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