#beets

we actually plan on getting rid of most if it by depending on pathlib

but we can't reasonably do that until we are already py3

because the py2 backport is untrustworthy and not kept up to date

and we'd probably end up with the same problems anyways in what we pass to pathlib

i just don't wanna rethink any of that until we actually use bytes where we want

so.. i know most of what i'm doing is going to be thrown away almost immediately

well immediately as in within the same monthish

it'd help if i was more familiar with python :(

and all the work on my own scripts has been with py3

and other stuff was mostly unix only

I have a rough idea of Python but I have no idea with it's quirks and stuff

Especially on Windows

well most of the quirks are gone in py3 :)

it's a pretty solid language

a reliable workhorse

Strings are the main thing that confuse me in 2

the string change was the most disruptive thing to ever happen to python

I never know whether to use encode, decode or what

you wo'nt have that problem on py3

the other will error out

that is, using one or the other on bytes and strings

only one works on each

Oh good

strings can turn into bytes, and bytes into strings

that's it

Yeah, I'm glad they differentiated them

well bytes can be turned into ints too, but it's not decode/encode

that's gonna be the biggest win of the transistion

it's just heavy gruntwork.. and i'm not very good at py2 :)

well i'm hnardly good at python at all

good enough tho i guess

it'd just go faster i was a better

if i*

Wow, running nose in parallel is a lot faster than I expected.

56 seconds normally, 15 parallel

get to your failures faster!

Exactly :D

so would you consider your tox config ready for testing now?

I think so :)

If you just run tox -e pyXY-test, you'll get no coverage output and no skipped test output

Just normal nosetests output

well here goes then

You can do tox -l (lowercase L) if you want to see what tasks are available.

Eugh GitHub still says sampsyo has commente on an up to date diff even though it's no longer up to date. Get yo' shit together GitHub

yay

it works

Good :D

that is, i got fails

Haha

music time

so i might temporarily have access to a windows 10 laptop soon.. i'll see if i can try to run beets on the new linux emulation thingy

hopefully appveyor will find a way to enable that mode for tests too

Something we could think about in the future is trying it out under Cygwin

i'm not gonna bother with that.. this new windows thingy is the future

It's certainly an interesting idea but I don't really do Windows for development

i never use windows but for testing web stuff

oh.. and some iot stuff i do

My desktop runs Windows but I just use it for streaming TV and gaming

Everything else is done on my laptop

if i can't run a game on linux, i just don't play it

wine counts though

that's how i play starcraft 2

i'm actually been playing a starcraft 1 remake in starcraft 2 called mass recall

i couldn't imagine going back to playing the original starcraft ever again

the ui is so clunky in comparison

Do you count Wine / Mono as running it on Linux? ;)

yes

mono of course .. evne more so

mono stuff runs completely natively

i mean as native as java

my former favorite music playing app was a mono app

it used gtk#

that is.. C# bindings to gtk

so yeah it was quite native..

What player do you use now?

quodlibet for now

i miss banshee tho.. too bad it's mostly dead

Ah, nice. I'm using cmus just because I can't find anything good for mac :(

after novell got bought out , all of their nice .net work got wiped out

cmus is cli isn't?

Yeah

I just open it in a tmux session and leave it in the background

i use a graphical player stuff.. except for oneoffs

Yeah I would but I can't find any worth using, I stay away from iTunes like it's the plague

Probably because it is the plague

what other ones did you try and not like?

Clementine had an odd UI IIRC

for oneoffs i use gst123

usually when deciding whether i wanna make it part of my library or not

The main thing is I want a music player that's *just* a player, I don't want it to try and manage my library too

I've got beets for that ^_^

oh.. i definitely want it to manage my library.. i just want it to use beets for the library

You want the UI to manage your library?

By manage I mean tagging and stuff

it does have a tagger, but i don't really use it

i mean browsing, querying

Yeah that's what I want

I don't want it organising it into it's own file structure *coughs and looks at iTunes again*

like i can type releasecountry="JP"

and get everything released in japan

it'd be better if it was more deeply integrated in beets

an alternative for you would be to use mopidy maybe

Yeah, it'd be nice to see a player like that

it can use beets db directly and you could use any mpd client

so i hear anyways

Oh that's cool

quodlibet is the author of the mutagen library we rely on

Ahh

right nwo quodlibets library is just picked python :)

Swinsian seems the best player for OS X at this point, I'll probably end up buying it.

pickled*

Well I should probably get off, it's 3AM here >_<

most of the time i consider proprieteary software

i end up coming to the point where i'd rather have something slightly inferior to, that i can contribute to

I don't enjoy using proprietary software but sometimes there's nothing else

where are you?

United Kingdom :P Where abouts are you?

US

Ah

EDT

Well have a nice night :)

well good night, thanks for the working tox config!

Any time :)

once it t gets merged, one less commit in my py3 branch!

Haha :)

Happy to help ^_^