#beets

(guessing ncmpcpp)

mpd

yes ncmpcpp

sampsyo: starting a branch with just relocating all attachments, without even having them in library is actually a huge deal :D

is it a known bug?

then you can add filter, then you can add restrictions when spliting directory content..

you know .. beta version...

point is you still have to move files

oloP: yes, alas https://github.com/sampsyo/beets/issues/350

didn't see it, sorry

ncmpcpp handles vorbis comments weirdly

no problem

thanks for the link

beets tries to maximize compatibility with as many players as possible, but that means that ncmpcpp sees duplicate tags

I really wish I could just fix ncmpcpp, but they don't seem interested, unfortunately

oh nice discovery. mpd

that what i was searching for!

Yeah, I was thinking the solution you propose is just a workaround, the problem is from MPD

sampsyo: so what do you think about my proposal

I'm still worried about expending effort on something that we'll need to throw away soon

when we implement the full feature (DB tracking)

but I can definitely see it as a plugin (that would then be deprecated)

if you're interested in hacking

interested in both actually

i just wanna start from something, with your bless

sure, I'd be interested to see how it turns out

please give it a go if you're so inclined

thanks for volunteering! :)

okey :)

after i'll some draft, i'll to come ask you about, how do you see a core implementation

sounds good

sampsyo: have you evert thought of using the same web API as subsonic so that we can use all its great clients?

and apologies in advance if we end up needing to start from scratch

oloP: interesting point. I hadn't even looked at their API -- I wonder how easy it would be to emulate.

looks like a sort of messy ad-hoc API, but not hard to duplicate (a subset)

I've already think of making a subsonic plugin for beets, but I'm no dev at all.

thought*

sampsyo: does lastgenre being used automatically with import command...?

Yep

Unless you disable the auto option

hmz

is it possible to disable this with an argument..?

no?

No, sorry

can we add this =/?

or it's no clear way to implement this..?

Yeah, it's actually not straightforward to add new options to existing commands (I.e., import) from a plugin

maybe vise-versa would work

hmz probably not

sampsyo: how to disable import lastgenre? can't find anything in here, or i'm blind : https://beets.readthedocs.org/en/latest/plugins...

ah auto optio

sampsyo: holms : am i allowed to edit https://github.com/sampsyo/beets/wiki/Attachments

i would like to add a usecase if possible

ask sampsyo :) im newbie in here

i'd post a suggestion in issue if i were you..

holms: kk thx

weird situation again in here..

year wasn not detected for an album

and it just stays where it was =(

hmz.. no year is fine

modified genre also. should be moved to genre folder.. stays in place =/

sampsyo: can you help me in here?

strange incindent

zeltak: Go ahead and edit the wiki too if you like. There's no particular organization at the moment.

holms: From the lastgenre docs: "To disable automatic genre fetching on import, set the auto config option to false."

and what's the other issue you're seeing? can you explain a little more?

thx sampsyo , added this line, i hope it makes sense:

* Enable copy/move of Artist level images to corresponding Artist in beets structure, that is if pinkfloyd.jpg is present in the pink floyd artist folder move it to the pink floyd root level in the beets output

I noticed some other comments about that stuff

FWIW, "artist-level" is not something that currently makes sense in beets—there's not even technically such a thing as an album directory

only a common directory that several tracks (which may or may not share an artist or an album) happen to share

we get around this for albums by just using the first track on the album, but this has obvious problems and clearly won't work for artists

so if you're interested in doing that, we need a bit more design work—if you get a chance, it would be great to have your thoughts on the wiki about how exactly that would work

sampsyo: sure will work on it in the next few days

#beets [THC,Th,TX,TWX,TeX]

cool, thanks

thx sampsyo: may i sneak in another Q Re beets? does/will beets support ratings?

you can do ratings now if you like

beet mod some_song rating=5

beet ls rating:4

will it tag the files as well or just the DB?

just the DB, if I recall correctly

ah yes, here's the issue https://github.com/sampsyo/beets/issues/122

i see, sampsyo did you know there is a standard for floss ratings in music files:

no, that's cool!

thanks

would be cool if beets could use the FMPS_Rating to tag the actual file

i know of alot of players (and soon mpd i hope) that use that

totally, I get that

would you mind adding a comment to issue #122?

ofc will do it now np

great

so sorry for the neewb Q, but do you consider beets just a tagger or a full blown music manager?

I consider it a music manager that happens to come with a tagger :)

sampsyo: very cool, im thinking of moving over ot beets full time to manage my music and push to mpd

seems like a great setup to me (and one I've used in the past)

ive been using mpd last 5 years and love it but it kinda sucks in terms of managing music

:)

true, it really is mostly a player

sampsyo: you use the beets player now insead of mpd?

I've been using Tomahawk for a while

tomahawk is great i know, i even spent 2 days with the dev in a kde booth at linux con 4 years agi ..lol

*ago

ah, awesome

some great people work on that project

yeah, still i miss alot of my mpd tricks to switch to it full time

right, nothing is quite like mpd in that way

so i wonder if you would consider adding in the future smart lists, dynamin playe etc to beets based on last played, rating etc ? would that be in the scope of beets?

yeah, I would definitely like to do that—a sort of souped up version of the "smartplaylist" plugin we currently have

a few more tweaks to the query system could make that really useful

sampsyo: nice, its great there is alot of things planned ahead :)

yes, always planning :)

really like beets , again thanks for all the effort you put into it

if only we all had infinite time

thanks!

and great, I'm glad it's working well

yeah time is a bitch :) i have negative time thesedays..lol

started a assitant prof position and 2 small kids ;-)

yep, likewise

wow, that would be completely overwhelming

sampsyo: oh it is :)

out of curiosity, where do you work? I'm a PhD student myself

but im waiting for the big wave to pass

(at http://uw.edu)

sampsyo: i started working at BGU (in israel). i finished my post doc 1 month ago ath harvard school of public health

sampsyo: whats your phd in?

ah, very cool

computer science, predictably

which is why this is my hobby

nice :) i wish i could code but i dont know squat, and have zero time to learn

i work on air pollution prediction models

:)

amazing

much more important than the research I do :)