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      • nickgaw
        Is 14 newer then 13 in terms of newer features?
      • Samot
        It has new stuff that will go LTS in 15
      • Well, SR or STT and TTS are in the same boat.
      • Anything decent is going to cost you.
      • nickgaw
        Basically I am having to go with asterisk as I moved and wanted to keep my land line numbers so we had to go with a sip company and currently the numbers are forwarding to cell phones but we would like to use a real asterisk system so we can have voice mails on a land line type of a setup would 14 work fine for such a setup or should I download 13?
      • Samot
        Either is fine.
      • nickgaw
        I use text to speech as I am totally blind and yes the good quality synthisizers do cost but I think they are worth the cost. I like the openness of asterisk as you are not limited by the company on the amount of messages you can store. do you ever do private work on home asterisk virtual private servers?
      • Samot
        13 will go end of life in the next year or two...
      • By then 15 will be released.
      • All of _my_ servers are in the cloud.
      • nickgaw
        What company do you use to host your servers?
      • Samot
        DigitalOcean, AWS, Linode and Vultr.
      • nickgaw
        I know digitalocean does not have phone support if I should ever need it do any of the others besides AWS?
      • Samot
        Because even if there was phone support, a lot of what you need would fall under "paid"
      • nickgaw
        Usually I don't need phone support but I would like a hosting company that does offer it should I need it for reloading the virtual private server.
      • Samot
        That's the thing.
      • That's not a support "service"
      • nickgaw
        I am not talking about the asterisk support mainly if I needed help with the virtual private server like reloading it or something not related to asterisk.
      • Samot
        Spinning up a VM is totally handle via their portals and it takes less than 5 minutes.
      • I know that.
      • That's not a support issue.
      • It would be paid, even with phone support.
      • That would be considered "remote hands"
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      • You need a reseller that will do this for you.
      • Or hire someone to help you.
      • That is just how it is.
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      • Sigh. I feel bad for the guy.
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      • nickgaw
        If I want to go on the bleeding edge what is the repo or git clone url for the asterisk repository?
      • Samot
        I actually don't know the guidelines or rules for pull from the git repo.
      • nickgaw
        so is 14 the latest I can probably get?
      • drmessano
        If you have concerns about needing a VM reloaded and hand holding
      • Why would you go "Bleeding Edge" for Asterisk?
      • Use something that's more stable
      • Samot
        It's not hand holding he really needs.
      • It's the fact his screen reading software isn't playing nice with a lot of their portal GUIs.
      • Which makes using the portal to reload/spin up VMs problematic.
      • I totally get the want/need for what he is looking for.
      • Unfortunately, he's an individual case that falls outside the business model that all these places basically use.
      • nickgaw
        Digitalocean is not very screen reader friendly
      • Samot
        So he either needs to hire/find someone to help him or find a VM reseller that will take the extra time for him.
      • That's basically your options, nickgraw.
      • nickgaw
        I have the asterisk book 4th version but it talks about 11 should lots of that information still apply to version 13 or 14?
      • Samot
        In regards to a lot of it, yes.
      • nickgaw
        What in that book is no longer valid?
      • Samot
        It's not that it's no longer valid overall.
      • PJSIP was in 12
      • Adaptive CDRs were in 12
      • Opus is in 14
      • etc, etc.
      • nickgaw
        I know about pjsip and plan to set that up as a sip driver so it is around.
      • Samot
        Things like Ring Groups, IVRs, dialplan, etc haven't changed.
      • nickgaw
        Would you considder 14 to be stable or 13 to be stable?
      • Samot
        They are BOTH STABLE
      • They are both stable releases.
      • nickgaw
        Is 14 the latest I can get in terms of newest features?
      • Samot
        13 is LTS which is Long Term Support. So it will get security and bug fixes, etc until it's end of life cycles.
      • 14 is Standard. It will have new features but it only has a 1 year life cycle.
      • Those features will be pushed to 15 for LTS.
      • 14 is higher than 13, so yes.
      • nickgaw
        Where is a good place to search for asterisk workers if once I finish the book I still have questions or want something more advanced?
      • Samot
        Freelance sites.
      • nickgaw
        I would want someone who know about asterisk pritty well.
      • Samot
        You're the one that's going to be hiring them.
      • nickgaw
        yes
      • Samot
        Those sites are like Craig's List.
      • They'll have resumes, work history, ratings for people that have hired them..
      • nickgaw
        but I don't want to hire someone who does not know about what I am looking for and just want my money.
      • good point
      • drmessano
        That's the whole point of learning it yourself
      • Pay real money and hire someone reputable, or learn it yourself
      • Samot
        It's how most the VoIP providers I have as clients found me.
      • drmessano
        You have exactly 2 options, pick one
      • nickgaw
        Have you used any of those sites and if so can you suggest one?
      • drmessano
        But I stand by what I said about not picking something bleeding edge
      • Go with something stable and not a moving target
      • Samot
        2:22:52 PM <Samot> It's how most the VoIP providers I have as clients found me.
      • nickgraw: Google "hire freelancer sites"
      • drmessano
        nickgaw: You've been coming in here for years basically in the same place. Time to decide if you're going to learn it or just pay someone
      • nickgaw
        I don't mind paying money for good work if they can get the job done currectly. Basically I don't mind learning it on my own but don't want to put people calling my house into a mess when our phones no longer ring because I broke something.
      • Samot
        Pretty much all the freelancer sites require the freelancers to cough up money and offer payment protection.
      • As long as you use the service the PAY them.
      • nickgaw
        that is totally fine with me.
      • Samot
        So you're protected from someone "taking" your money.
      • nickgaw
        that is what I was trying to say in a nice way.
      • Samot
        You pay the freelance service..
      • they pay the freelancer.
      • It's basically "Online Temp Services"
      • nickgaw
        ok so you don't deal directly with the person who is doing the work?
      • Samot
        YES
      • But you use the freelance service to handle payments
      • nickgaw
        I mean as far as payment goes.
      • Samot
        No.
      • you do not pay them directly.
      • nickgaw
        makes sence and that makes me feel better.
      • Samot
        they hold the payment in escrow.
      • You have 14 days after the "request payment" is made to deny it
      • Or just let it go through.
      • Generally, timeframes may change.
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      • Depending on the service.
      • You can hire per project or hourly. They have to use the services time trackers in order to be guaranteed payments.
      • Well for hourly pretty much.
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      • nickgaw
        what freelance services have you used and have good luck with?
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