#amara

cz: arthurdebert: well I've fixed it, but I'm always up for ripping out features

sjl cz I just think it's too much trouble for very little gain, but it's fine really

wow it's actually snowing quite a bit here

postage-stamp-sized flakes

arthurdebert sjl: create a ticket for tearing out text-only uploads. CC Maggie in a comment and just make sure there's no concrete reason we shouldn't do it.

nicksergeant: hey how do I get rid of this obnoxious message? http://i.imgur.com/h3UHYzN.png

nicksergeant: I see it like four times per page load in the console... makes it annoying to try to see my debug output

sjl: ask arthurdebert

arthurdebert: ^^

you have to symlink some files around

i can't remember where they are though

sjl that (they're in the integration repo)

what files?

is there a script to make it happen?

arthurdebert: can you glance over https://github.com/pculture/unisubs/commit/a807... when you get a chance and make sure it looks sane?

sjl will do

cz: 2108 closed, 2123 created

2108 - DMR: translation draft uploaded from a txt file has no timing - https://unisubs.sifterapp.com/issue/2108, 2123 - Remove TXT File Uploads - https://unisubs.sifterapp.com/issue/2123

sjl: +1

nicksergeant: i need to listen to mouse movement and typing on the new editor for session idling but i just can't find a good place for it. maybe onSubtitlesFetched?

fernandotakai: typing in a subtitle textarea?

nicksergeant: no, typing in general. on the page.

fernandotakai: k, one sec

nicksergeant: we do like this on closure https://github.com/pculture/unisubs/blob/dev/me...

fernandotakai: yeah, this should be done as a directive

fernandotakai: probably on the body elem

fernandotakai: and listen to keydowns and mouse movements

nicksergeant: k

fernandotakai: here's an example

fernandotakai: https://github.com/pculture/unisubs/blob/dev/me...

fernandotakai: so that listens for the esc key sequence on the body

nicksergeant: awesome.

fernandotakai: you could do that anywhere but we should probably create a directive "app" or something for the body elem

janeted: +1 !

fernandotakai: because it doesn't really belong in a subtitle directive

fernandotakai: and then you would bind your mousemove event there too

fernandotakai: er

fernandotakai: do it here: https://github.com/pculture/unisubs/blob/dev/me...

fernandotakai: that's already setup for video keybindings. perfect place for the pausing stuff.

nicksergeant: ok

man I miss working in Angular

lol

lol

nicksergeant: another thing, i need two timers - one for regaining locks and one for timing out after 5min without action – is the directive a good place for that too?

fernandotakai: yup, anything to do with binding / throwing events on DOM objects should be done in directives

fernandotakai: controllers = view logic, directives = DOM everything, services = data layer

looking at angular then at closure code is just bizarre.

fernandotakai: you may want to create a service if you have some wild logic going on with regaining locks and things like that

nicksergeant: yeah, we need http requests for that

especially if we need to auto save and stuff

yup throw that in a new service

you can look at the subtitlestorage service as an example

lol

closure == jee angular == anything that is not jee

sjl: hey this is angular land, it's all cherries and gumdrops over here

lol

you can replace jee with spring too

even though angular has dependency injection just like spring

i still don't get deps injection for angular

it hasn't clicked for me yet

is it just how you define dependencies by throwing them in the function args?

more or less, you specify a param and then an object is automatically added there (via config or via convention)

ah, gotcha

yeah that is pretty great

a little magical

but it's nice

its magical in js because you just specify a name

in java, you use interfaces + configs. then when you want to test, the configs change to inject a 'mock' object

ah

neato

nicksergeant: martin fowler's article on it is quite good http://www.martinfowler.com/articles/injection....

fernandotakai: cool will check that out

in Clojure, you try to do as much work as possible in pure functions, so you can test each individually and they don't have any dependencies to mock

the only thing I know about Java is that I barely passed it in college

sjl: yes, I like that ideal. We do the same in JS, I think. *horror warning* - In Node, it's nice because you can pass mock request objects to test things like user auth, etc

though that's more at the web layer than logic

so you still need to mock requests

Yeah, in Clojure the "request object" would just be a vanilla map

yeah same as in Node when you're doing testing

so you don't really need to "mock" anything, you just create the map as normal

it was refreshing to not have to use an HTTP layer to do testing

yup

it's been a while since i looked at this kind of thing http://www.martinfowler.com/articles/locator.gif

I still think we need a decent Lisp-to-JS language

lispyscript?

all: lunch

isnt' that what ClojureScript is?

isn't*

lispyscript isn't really a lisp -- it's not homoiconic, the parens are just a lie. there's no reawly macros

nicksergeant: he said "decent"

oh

:)

sjl: right

clojurescript is painful, unfortunately

haven't played with it

ah

the toolchain is awful (closure compiler required means working with external libs is a giant pain in the nuts)

clojurescript is getting better though but yeah good luck with parsing tracebacks

and there aren't real macros -- you have to write the macros in Clojure, not Clojurescript

lol

I feel like at least one of these has to not suck, right?

you'd think

jscheme looks like it hits all of the points

i still don't understand why we can't just write javascript

ehazlett: LOL

ehazlett: +1

can't we all just get along and write JS

i mean yeah it has it's warts but they all do

nicksergeant: jsscheme or js-scheme (naming is hard)

Once you start writing in a language with real macros it's painful coming back

sjl: jsScheme has all green boxes

nicksergeant: ah, that one is only an interpreter, it doesn't compile down to vanilla JS

i need to learn a lisp

sjl: ah

funny, most people who have a lisp wish they could unlearn it...

ehazlett: +5 btw

fernandotakai: ;)

nicksergeant: now i totally wanted points so i could -5 you for the horrible joke

fernandotakai: LOL

also once you learn paredit every other programming language is a giant pain in the ass to edit

nicksergeant: lol -- a quick glance at that comment took me to a not so kind place

fernandotakai: then I'm happy for our new points overlord / honza

ehazlett: lol

nicksergeant: was like, wait, wat

ehazlett: hahah

ehazlett: it's a real site

ehazlett: it's been around for a long time

nicksergeant: yeah like the insta-horn from sjl

i prefer http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=...

argh

i wish google stopped doing that

I wish Google would just stop everything

I hate them lately

spam in my email

bad search results

meh

nicksergeant: you can always start your own search engine. with blackjack. and hookers.

LOL