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      • rue_house
        oh is that starting already?
      • I'm another 7 hours away
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      • mystified
        hi just installed Devuan
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      • Hi
      • just installed Devuan xfce
      • golinux
        mystified: Congrats!
      • mystified
        attempting install of nvidia-34
      • attempting install of nvidia-340
      • are you familiar with this
      • I'm doing thris through synaptic
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      • Hi guys, new here & Happy New Year all
      • Just a couple of Qu
      • pkg installations, devuan binary pkgs are they any different to debians. What I'm getting at is installing pkgs that are built for Sysd different to devuan
      • So if I'm unable to install from Devuan repositories can I install from directly install from debian, without having to change the depends
      • rue_house
        HAPPY NEW YEARS STRANGERW!
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      • mystified
        Thx :rue-house
      • rue_house
        I appear to have issued a word based strangers instead of string based :)
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      • CenturionDan
        mystified: there is no need to install from debian at allas we have everything from debian we don't build in our repos anyway
      • We rebuild some packages to remove hard deps on systemd.
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      • mystified
        CenturionDan Thx
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      • what if I wish to install a pkg that is not in the Devuan repositories
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      • KatolaZ
        mystified: everything that is in debian repos in in devuan repos, so far
      • so if you need to install anything that is outside devuan repos
      • mystified
        Fantastic. That answers that.
      • KatolaZ
        you just proceeed as if you had a debian
      • mystified
        ie git etc
      • just build exactly the same
      • KatolaZ
        the only differences are in packages with systemd-related dependencies
      • mystified: Devuan is a Debian without systemd
      • mystified
        what does one do there
      • Thats why I'm here
      • I detest "SysD"
      • Is there a guide how to compile & how to add dependencies. That is my weak area.
      • I have no formal technical skills
      • Is Devuan openrc or sysV
      • KatolaZ
        sysV so far
      • mystified: compilation is the same as in Debian
      • the same as in any other unix-like system
      • mystified
        I still not sure on how to do that correctly. I'd like to learn. Where are some good tutorials.
      • I understand make install clean.
      • But
      • muep
        there are common patterns to compiling things, but note that it also tends to vary between specific programs
      • mystified
        when I have to add dependsor being able to identify when to use eg. qmakae cmake or json. etc
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      • I don't know haoe to add to pkgbuild
      • muep
        pkgbuild as in PKGBUILD files used in arch linux and its derivatives, or just package build in general?
      • mystified
        Thx.
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      • KatolaZ
        mystified: in devuan you use apt
      • apt-get
      • to install missing packages
      • mystified
        yes. Understand.
      • muep
        you will not be dealing with PKGBUILD files in debian or its relatives
      • mystified
        I've been using binary for a number of yrs
      • But I'd like to learn more.
      • For nearly 6yrs i've been using deb/ubuntu systems.
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      • About a yr ago I moved away to arch based distros.
      • I'm back here because I do not like the Sysd way of doing of things
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      • aitor
        mystified: lo learn more about how to build packages for devuan?
      • mystified
        A few months ago I installed Trueos(Bsd) love it. But there is to much that is beyond my level of understanding. Hence why I've come back deb base without the sysD.
      • Simple with apt, dpkg, aptitude
      • If it'sdificult it's easy to google to find the solution or user forums
      • aitor
        mystified: dpkg-buildpackage or git-buildpackage
      • mystified
        Thx aitor
      • aitor
        there are some how-to's in the mailing list
      • mystified
        I've never looked at mailing lists
      • aitor
        but the best way is to start with a concrete example, and ask your doubts here or in the DNG
      • KatolaZ
        aitor: I don't think mystified wants to create new deb packages....
      • aitor
        ok, only build things?
      • mystified
        Yes just build !
      • KatolaZ
        yep
      • mystified
        To be able to understand wht what & when to do something
      • aitor
        it depends on the used tools for that
      • mystified
        thats "why "
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      • exactly
      • aitor
        in the most of the cases there is a configure file, or a Makefile or a CMakeLists
      • mystified
        As i stated. I'm the blind leading the blind
      • Yes, I do rhat and it's still crashes.
      • Hestben
        mystified: One handy thing in apt-get is the "apt-get build-dep <package>" to get all dependencies for a package
      • aitor
        qmake is for Qt
      • mystified
        Yes, familiar with them
      • Hestben
        mystified: If you got a crash, then, you may get more help by asking the developers of that specific application
      • mystified
        Follow the " Install notes" even look the configure logs.
      • aitor
        for building purposes dpkg-checkbuilddeps as root in the parent directory
      • mystified
        Thanks Aitor
      • muep
        qmake for programs that ship a .pro file in them. Most of these use also Qt otherwise, but not all Qt-using programs are intended to be built with qmake
      • aitor
        See you later, i'm working on simple-netaid-gtk and i'm getting a Segmentation fault
      • mystified
        exactly, did not know that.
      • aitor
        Arrrr
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      • mystified
        Sorry & thx
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      • Hey what is "DNG" stand for Devuan something from aitor comment " and ask your doubts here or in the DNG "