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      • DocScrutinizer05
        LOL, my mirror was no multiplier but a divider
      • I don't buy the "WE'RE UNDER HEAVY LOAD"
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      • infobot
      • ksx4system
      • DocScrutinizer05
        forget it, I had a DL/UL of 10/4 so far
      • so prolly all the "VERY HEAVY LOAD" comes only from the mirrors
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      • without my mirror, devuan.org had 6GB less to serve
      • ksx4system
        I've used torrent to get files
      • DocScrutinizer05
        it's prolly rather everybody and his dog tries the netinstall or the stripped CD version, and then downloads like mad with apt-get
      • ksx4system
        maybe
      • DocScrutinizer05
        there simple file mirrors won't help
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      • ((torrent)) me too, here at home
      • ksx4system
        upgraded VPS to seed that lol
      • DocScrutinizer05
        I'm seeding but nobody downloads
      • ksx4system
        weird
      • I already have 1.1 ratio and it's not even 24 hours since I've started seeding
      • constant traffic around 0.5-1.0mbit/s
      • DocScrutinizer05
        anyway on http://devuan-temporary-mirror.almesberger.net constant traffic of 0
      • except my ssh
      • RX bytes:11262422031 (10740.6 Mb) TX bytes:5086919715 (4851.2 Mb)
      • ksx4system
        aria2c says it's still 10GB-ish transmitted out
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      • figlfdev
        jaromil: Centurion_Dan: (sorry dan) i have used devuan since march '15, ive donated, and i would PREFER to congratulate you right now, but instead i have to call out the arrogance and short-sightedness of deleting VITAL isos from your servers-- i AT LEAST need the valentine iso
      • i can barely use alpha2, alpha4 is useless to me, and beta installer is 100% FAIL for me.
      • even though i can use gnuinos (cheers aitor) and then dist-upgrade to devuan repos, theres now no DEVUAN installer for me.
      • GONE. why did you delete it? heck, the link was HIDDEN already! youre forcing me to be your beta tester?
      • TESTED: debootstrap error. cant find which version blah blah blah (useless.)
      • better luck with next version. in the meantime, please have one WORKING ISO up at all times. CIAO.
      • ive been reading the mailing list and irc logs as long as theyve been up. i will do what i can to make this work. i shouldnt be so desperate right now-- but you have to delete stuff eh
      • be seeing you.
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      • DocScrutinizer05
        ouch
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      • minnesotags
        Yeah.
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      • Vall
        parazyd: agreed.
      • DocScrutinizer05
        one general advice: no rollouts (of whatever) on Fridays/Saturdays - unless you made damn sure *everybody* got 48h on duty to manage the fallout
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      • the usual pattern alas is: everybody works like a dog to accomplish the rollout, usually during last 2 days lots of things get done sloppy to keep the deadline, the rollout and everybody waves and leaves for a week of holiday to recover from the stress
      • there should be a no-holidays_24/7-duty policy until at least 1 week *after* rollout
      • then _officially_ announce 1 week off, for everybody, after the earthquake settled
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      • well, devuan is also learning, this been the first big rollout afaik. for that it worked great :-)
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      • furrywolf
        rollout? did we get 1.0 out? or still beta?
      • DocScrutinizer05
        beta
      • but official and supposedly quite stable beta
      • furrywolf: did you enjoy your holiday on Robinson's Island? ;-)
      • furrywolf
        ah. I don't usually think of betas as being major events...
      • ?
      • Vall
        parazyd: albeit, bringing something to "perfection" sometimes should be avoided too. If the benefits aren't very clear and worth it, most of the time I think the best thing to do is just do nothing and let well enough alone.
      • parazyd: of course fixing bugs is always worthwhile, tho.
      • DocScrutinizer05
        furrywolf: it's even "been in the news"
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      • Vall: you refer to the age old saying of "in every project there comes a moment where you should shoot the developer and hand over to the marketing"?
      • Vall
        DocScrutinizer05: I refer to the age-old saying that "in every project, all marketing should be shot dead at the start"
      • DocScrutinizer05
        hehehe
      • Vall
        :-)
      • Or perhaps flayed and burned would be more fun ;-)
      • MinceR
        yeah, can't go wrong with "shoot everyone dead", can you? :>
      • DocScrutinizer05
        Make My Daaay!!!
      • MinceR
        :)
      • Vall
        MinceR: "kill them all, God will know his own"
      • MinceR
        :>
      • Vall
        Was right in 1209, still right today ;-)
      • MinceR
        assuming there's a "God"
      • DocScrutinizer05
        I met her yesterday
      • MinceR
        how do you know it was "God"?
      • Vall
        MinceR: well, if there isn't a God, we should invent one, as He/She/It is damn useful ;-)
      • MinceR
        actually, i have a far more interesting question than that
      • DocScrutinizer05
        she wore a T-shirt with a print saying so :-)
      • MinceR
        insufficient evidence
      • Vall
        DocScrutinizer05: you are lying, *I* didn't meet anyone yesterday! ;-)
      • MinceR
        is there a way to allow the mouse pointer to go into the area of the desktop not covered by CRTC-s in X?
      • (and if so, what is it?)
      • DocScrutinizer05
        did you lend out your T-shirt?
      • Vall
        DocScrutinizer05: no, but someone must have taken it from the clothesline ;-)
      • MinceR
        i'm pretty sure several t-shirts can be manufactured with the same print
      • DocScrutinizer05
        dang!
      • Vall
        MinceR: so there you have it, there's several gods ;-)
      • MinceR
        pretty loose definition
      • Vall
        MinceR: have you printed yours already? ;-)
      • MinceR
        i don't need to have such a thing printed
      • i already know who i am
      • furrywolf
        DocScrutinizer: Robinson's island? as in robinson crusoe? I don't get it.
      • DocScrutinizer05
        furrywolf: I just wondered what was the reason you obviously were cut off from the news
      • furrywolf
        oh. because most of my life doesn't involve being at the computer. and I don't tend to read news. lol
      • DocScrutinizer05
        just kidding
      • furrywolf: if you want to do me and my server a favor, use http://devuan-temporary-mirror.almesberger.net to download the DVD.iso to do a test install
      • Centurion_Dan
        I've just tested redirects to use the pool from local debian mirrors for debian packages and it works great. I'll look to start implementing them for all the CC mirrors soon
      • furrywolf
        my internet connection is 50KB/sec and $11/GB. I use netinst, AND copy all the .debs off my other boxes as soon as the base system is installed, so I don't re-download any packages I already got...
      • DocScrutinizer05
        netinstall (and even the CD.iso is sparse and thus installs lots of packages over network) been reported to randomly fail on downloading packages
      • furrywolf
        I'll let someone with a better connection download DVD ISOs. :)
      • DocScrutinizer05
        (connection) fair enough a rationale at your side, pretty unfair plan
      • Centurion_Dan
        my local debian mirror is way faster then debians httpredir
      • DocScrutinizer05
        is this wireless?
      • Centurion_Dan
        furrywolf: are you on satellite or something?
      • DocScrutinizer05
        I mean, 11$/GB :-o
      • furrywolf
        3G, virgin mobile
      • DocScrutinizer05
        mobile, thought as much
      • Centurion_Dan
        it can't be a virgin if it's raping you for that much :-P
      • DocScrutinizer05
        hehehe
      • minnesotags
        DocScrutinizer05: I'm downloading off your mirror.
      • Centurion_Dan
        bbl
      • minnesotags
        100kb/s
      • furrywolf
        they also rape anything that looks like html transferred over it. I have to tunnel everything.
      • minnesotags
        This is only a cable connection here, though.
      • furrywolf
        they insert javascript into page loads
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      • minnesotags
        I stopped it.
      • DocScrutinizer05, I'm now downloading it on my gig connection off your mirror.
      • avg 4.5mb/s.
      • Trying your dvd
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      • fsmithred
        Centurion_Dan, installer is looking for cdrom/dists/jessie/main/debian-installer/binary-i386/Packages but it does not exist. Packages.gz does exist.
      • Centurion_Dan
        fsmithred: that's odd...
      • fsmithred
        am I the only one?
      • Centurion_Dan
        so far... does it prevent the install?
      • fsmithred
        yes
      • Centurion_Dan
        can you send me a screencap of that?
      • fsmithred
        I thought I saved the syslog, but ro filesystem
      • yeah, I got a screenshot of the list of missing packages
      • sent
      • Centurion_Dan
        thanks that is useful.
      • minnesotags
        Hi Centurion_Dan; I'm trying to log in to the cloud instance. ssh works using [email protected] user, but then no login. Any ideas?
      • fsmithred
        running installer again, will try to save the syslog
      • Centurion_Dan
        minnesotags: where is the cloud instance being setup?
      • furrywolf
        I resorted to take-picture-of-monitor-with-camera when I was reporting my installer bugs.
      • fsmithred
        lol, been there, done that.
      • minnesotags
        I can shoot you the ip address.
      • fsmithred
        bb in a few minutes
      • Centurion_Dan
        does the control panel for the hosting provider not provide an api setting the root password or ssh key??
      • minnesotags: ^^
      • fsmithred: would you be interested in building refractor devuan edition on our infrastructure??
      • minnesotags
        I'm the hosting provider.
      • DocScrutinizer05
        minnesotags: RX bytes:11299010241 (10775.5 Mb) TX bytes:10640387486 (10147.4 Mb) break-even \o/ thanks! :-)